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		<title>By: lisaq</title>
		<link>http://20-forty.com/2008/07/24/denialthy-name-is-mr-unavailable/comment-page-1/#comment-778</link>
		<dc:creator>lisaq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh! Sounds very familiar sadly! You are so on target BradK! So on target! In fact, reading your comment brought back vivid pictures of EUMs I&#039;d rather forget. 

I so appreciate your detailing the good guy...the emotionally available guy. The guy that we really all want in our lives. I think sometimes we focus so much on the EUM that we forget what that guy is about when he&#039;s the one we should be looking for. I&#039;d rather be that girl walking around with a smile than any other girl in the world!

lisaqs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://20-forty.com/2008/08/03/very-young-men-and-the-older-woman/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Very Young Men and the Older Woman&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh! Sounds very familiar sadly! You are so on target BradK! So on target! In fact, reading your comment brought back vivid pictures of EUMs I&#8217;d rather forget. </p>
<p>I so appreciate your detailing the good guy&#8230;the emotionally available guy. The guy that we really all want in our lives. I think sometimes we focus so much on the EUM that we forget what that guy is about when he&#8217;s the one we should be looking for. I&#8217;d rather be that girl walking around with a smile than any other girl in the world!</p>
<p>lisaqs last blog post..<a href="http://20-forty.com/2008/08/03/very-young-men-and-the-older-woman/" rel="nofollow">Very Young Men and the Older Woman</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brad K.</title>
		<link>http://20-forty.com/2008/07/24/denialthy-name-is-mr-unavailable/comment-page-1/#comment-777</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LisaQ, Good post!

You state &quot;Then, they wouldn’t be able to function in their world as they know it because it would be too uncomfortable.&quot;  There may be another reason.

They don&#039;t know any better.

I don&#039;t claim these guys aren&#039;t responsible for the injuries they cause, for the dreams they shatter, for the pain they cause to those around them. They should be aware of the destruction and harm they cause, they should recognize what they are doing, and stop.  But.

We don&#039;t berate a color blind person for not telling green socks from red.  They are physically unable to discern the difference (unless their SO sews labels inside each, which I have seen).

An EUM is living in a different emotional space than well adjusted people interested in a family or other long term relationship.  Many EUM&#039;s are what I call professional daters.  Many are extremely experienced and talented at attracting bed companions, but their reason for hooking up is shallow - they want the excitement of a new bed mate.  They aren&#039;t looking for someone to build a life with.  The want a &#039;good date&#039;.

Many EUM&#039;s will be expert at figuring out what you want to hear, and convincing you that they are the right companion (for now).  They don&#039;t know anything more emotionally involved, they can&#039;t see, don&#039;t dream, can&#039;t envision anything more meaningful than a life of a succession of &#039;good dates&#039;.

Many women (and non-EUM men) would rather have a &#039;home with a family&#039; kind of security and emotional haven.  That takes a &#039;good&#039; man.  Instead of easy words, provocative dress, slick moves, and hanging out at the right bar (the EUM), a good man will usually be living a life.  His main characteristics will be honor, discipline, honesty, compassion, good with kids and small children (that is, the kids and small animals are better for having had time with him - this is *not* the same as &#039;he didn&#039;t blow up when the kids were around&#039;).  Doesn&#039;t sound much like an exciting (ie, edge of danger) date, does it?  Women that choose a good man seldom have much exciting to say about him.  But the ones that I know smile more, for having a dependable life-mate.  

Don&#039;t pity an EUM.  Like a drunk, they are dangerous to be around, and doing anything but confront them only enables continued bad behavior.  (Confronting is never welcome, usually gets a bitter response, and almost never helps anyone.  Sound familiar?)

With all the &#039;sex sells&#039; ads and fashion and TV and novels and whatnot, it is no wonder that women think they want the &#039;sexy&#039; guy.  But the sexy guy is usually an EUM, with an eye on &#039;good dates&#039;.  Don&#039;t blame an EUM for his lack of understanding, for his inability to participate in a relationship, his deceit.  His &#039;be a man&#039; thingamabob was lamed.  Like color blindness, cures are only fantasy.

Brad K.s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.itsaboutmakingbabies.com/2008/08/02/about-her-ex-i-was-nothing-but-good-to-this-man/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;About her ex, “I was nothing but good to this man”&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LisaQ, Good post!</p>
<p>You state &#8220;Then, they wouldn’t be able to function in their world as they know it because it would be too uncomfortable.&#8221;  There may be another reason.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t know any better.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t claim these guys aren&#8217;t responsible for the injuries they cause, for the dreams they shatter, for the pain they cause to those around them. They should be aware of the destruction and harm they cause, they should recognize what they are doing, and stop.  But.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t berate a color blind person for not telling green socks from red.  They are physically unable to discern the difference (unless their SO sews labels inside each, which I have seen).</p>
<p>An EUM is living in a different emotional space than well adjusted people interested in a family or other long term relationship.  Many EUM&#8217;s are what I call professional daters.  Many are extremely experienced and talented at attracting bed companions, but their reason for hooking up is shallow &#8211; they want the excitement of a new bed mate.  They aren&#8217;t looking for someone to build a life with.  The want a &#8216;good date&#8217;.</p>
<p>Many EUM&#8217;s will be expert at figuring out what you want to hear, and convincing you that they are the right companion (for now).  They don&#8217;t know anything more emotionally involved, they can&#8217;t see, don&#8217;t dream, can&#8217;t envision anything more meaningful than a life of a succession of &#8216;good dates&#8217;.</p>
<p>Many women (and non-EUM men) would rather have a &#8216;home with a family&#8217; kind of security and emotional haven.  That takes a &#8216;good&#8217; man.  Instead of easy words, provocative dress, slick moves, and hanging out at the right bar (the EUM), a good man will usually be living a life.  His main characteristics will be honor, discipline, honesty, compassion, good with kids and small children (that is, the kids and small animals are better for having had time with him &#8211; this is *not* the same as &#8216;he didn&#8217;t blow up when the kids were around&#8217;).  Doesn&#8217;t sound much like an exciting (ie, edge of danger) date, does it?  Women that choose a good man seldom have much exciting to say about him.  But the ones that I know smile more, for having a dependable life-mate.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t pity an EUM.  Like a drunk, they are dangerous to be around, and doing anything but confront them only enables continued bad behavior.  (Confronting is never welcome, usually gets a bitter response, and almost never helps anyone.  Sound familiar?)</p>
<p>With all the &#8217;sex sells&#8217; ads and fashion and TV and novels and whatnot, it is no wonder that women think they want the &#8217;sexy&#8217; guy.  But the sexy guy is usually an EUM, with an eye on &#8216;good dates&#8217;.  Don&#8217;t blame an EUM for his lack of understanding, for his inability to participate in a relationship, his deceit.  His &#8216;be a man&#8217; thingamabob was lamed.  Like color blindness, cures are only fantasy.</p>
<p>Brad K.s last blog post..<a href="http://www.itsaboutmakingbabies.com/2008/08/02/about-her-ex-i-was-nothing-but-good-to-this-man/" rel="nofollow">About her ex, “I was nothing but good to this man”</a></p>
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		<title>By: lisaq</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisaq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for chiming in NML. I so appreciate you stopping by to give Sidelined your take on the situation!

lisaqs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://20-forty.com/2008/08/03/very-young-men-and-the-older-woman/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Very Young Men and the Older Woman&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for chiming in NML. I so appreciate you stopping by to give Sidelined your take on the situation!</p>
<p>lisaqs last blog post..<a href="http://20-forty.com/2008/08/03/very-young-men-and-the-older-woman/" rel="nofollow">Very Young Men and the Older Woman</a></p>
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		<title>By: Living in Denial with your Relationships : Baggage Reclaim - Dating, singles, relationships, sex tips and advice blog for men and women.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Living in Denial with your Relationships : Baggage Reclaim - Dating, singles, relationships, sex tips and advice blog for men and women.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was over at my good friend Lisa Q&#8217;s new blog 20:40 reading her post &#8220;Denial: Thy name is Mr Unavailable&#8221; and a reader [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was over at my good friend Lisa Q&#8217;s new blog 20:40 reading her post &#8220;Denial: Thy name is Mr Unavailable&#8221; and a reader [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NML</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sidelined. This sounds a bit odd. The fact that you acknowledge that they are deceiving and full of contradiction and then chalk it up to an inflated ego is betting on potential. In fact, the fact that you won&#039;t see his actions as they and instead look to the inflated ego excuse as a justifcation and rationalisation, not only for his behaviour but for also why you will continue to emotionally invest is betting on potential. And although you may not perceive anything in your actions as enabling this situation, the fact that you still want to be around in spite of his behaviour and even make excuses for it, suggests that your self esteem can&#039;t be that high. And does he have all of the qualities that you&#039;re looking for, or is it a case of ignoring the reality of his behaviour and seeing gold where there is copper?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sidelined. This sounds a bit odd. The fact that you acknowledge that they are deceiving and full of contradiction and then chalk it up to an inflated ego is betting on potential. In fact, the fact that you won&#8217;t see his actions as they and instead look to the inflated ego excuse as a justifcation and rationalisation, not only for his behaviour but for also why you will continue to emotionally invest is betting on potential. And although you may not perceive anything in your actions as enabling this situation, the fact that you still want to be around in spite of his behaviour and even make excuses for it, suggests that your self esteem can&#8217;t be that high. And does he have all of the qualities that you&#8217;re looking for, or is it a case of ignoring the reality of his behaviour and seeing gold where there is copper?</p>
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		<title>By: lisaq</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisaq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you have to be sure you&#039;re not betting on potential and that they really are SO in touch with themselves Sidelined. EUMs rarely are. I have learned that, for me, when the words don&#039;t match the actions it&#039;s time to walk away. It&#039;s not easy to do but, again for me, it has to be done.

lisaqs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://20-forty.com/2008/08/01/what-i-wish-i-knew-when-i-was-20-guest-post/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What I Wish I Knew When I Was 20-Guest Post&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you have to be sure you&#8217;re not betting on potential and that they really are SO in touch with themselves Sidelined. EUMs rarely are. I have learned that, for me, when the words don&#8217;t match the actions it&#8217;s time to walk away. It&#8217;s not easy to do but, again for me, it has to be done.</p>
<p>lisaqs last blog post..<a href="http://20-forty.com/2008/08/01/what-i-wish-i-knew-when-i-was-20-guest-post/" rel="nofollow">What I Wish I Knew When I Was 20-Guest Post</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sidelined</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sidelined</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is so painful is eum&#039;s come at you with such words &amp; feelings that you think they are SO in touch with themselves more than anyone you have ever met. I have never met anyone that is so deceiving. It has been the most damaging thing I have ever went through. I will not blame myself &amp; say I had no self esteem because the whole thing is very deceiving &amp; I as a person do not lie for my own personal benefit. Should I have taken a hike with the &quot;strangeness&quot; when the words werent matching the actions? Probably but how do you just walk away from someone you are in love with when you dont understand the contradiction? What if you arent betting on potential &amp; they have all of the qualities you look for but they just have an inflated ego?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is so painful is eum&#8217;s come at you with such words &amp; feelings that you think they are SO in touch with themselves more than anyone you have ever met. I have never met anyone that is so deceiving. It has been the most damaging thing I have ever went through. I will not blame myself &amp; say I had no self esteem because the whole thing is very deceiving &amp; I as a person do not lie for my own personal benefit. Should I have taken a hike with the &#8220;strangeness&#8221; when the words werent matching the actions? Probably but how do you just walk away from someone you are in love with when you dont understand the contradiction? What if you arent betting on potential &amp; they have all of the qualities you look for but they just have an inflated ego?</p>
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